bevchiron: Yep. An engagement. PunkClown: Name's Ayer. I'm rather happy with the star effect too. Holding the 44mm filter in front of the digital camera lens was a little annoying but the effect was worth it. Caledonia: Hmm, I might be able to actually get that effect. Don't have access to any lighting boxes or rigs... not sure if I'd know how to use them if I did, but I might have something close. Of course, by now the roses have all opened, and I'm not sure if they'll last long enought to let me try a few ideas, but we'll see. Any suggestions for direction? Straight down? Angled?