mmm Dr Doom Perpetually Pissed.... we would never have had the pleasure of Legumes social commentary either.... and would all have been the poorer for it and I would have got bored of poser after a week. and instead of studying computing at uni I might be an accountant. And forget how to have fun. Then I'd have to put a bullet into my head (apologies to all those accountants out there) and after I've done that, some people believe that yes...the world would come to an end. But no, if one or two forums die, life will go on. As long as something takes its place. SewerRat