Heh, maybe after I'm done everything, I'll be brave enough to try mesh modeling (shudder). It looks so intimidating! :) FT, is there a way to do screen captures of the Bryce interface? I have a PC using Windoze 95. The tutorial will take a while since they're BIG ships, but I'll need to do screen caps for it, and you're the expert! :) Greywolf PS- Picnic, if it wasn't for YOUR booleans, what would my sailors SIT on?! I know! Square primitives! LOL