well just an update, found a tree section i liked, rendered it then saved as jpeg used a little program that can keep another programme open on top of the one you are using, reduced it down so i could see the pic and Poser at same time. feet can't be seen in shot so that was a blessing but so far so good. This is my first full picture with Vue so i'm still on the bottem of the learning curve. this is a WIP, working on background next, but at moment i must have sleep. Hopfully finish sometime tomorrow Thanks for help and support David