Ultimately, I just hope software like Poser is picked up by a real company and not a toy manufacturer like MC. Poser needs a real GUI one that is practical and easy to use. The current one while the GUI is easy on the eyes many features are next to impossible to use very well. Larry, please model Poser after progs like Truespace 4. TS 4 while, not as capable as 3DS MAX has the absolute best interface I have ever seen. Its not over crowded with a bunch of useless functions and manipulating the lights and cameras is easy as hell. Very staight foward stuff. While MAX is not. Pete