then again, they are handing out forums like Off Topic (isnt this a duplicate of the Tavern minus the bear begging to become the next C and D??) like crazy these days, refusing to add useful forums like ones for Vector users, ones for stuff like Page Maker and Quark, etc. Right now, RS is still obsessed with 3D, which is only a blip on the radar screen when it come to computer art and design. Pretty much dead forums like Canoma, Render wars, Challenge arena and amorphium (all dead forums) are still available, while useful forums aren't being added.