Donald--The first part of your message addresses a personal opinion of mine, which is: The PFO chokes off discussion of important issues which they feel hurts the Forum, their image, or their ego. Certain topics, that are of concern to the community, were not up for discussion (i.e. how FD screwed over a shareware designer, or complaints about MC and Poser) in the eyes of those who ran the PFO. Unfortunately, concern about image is NOT in the best interests of the community, nor is choking off meaningful dialog that might make someone (MC or the PFO) look bad. The PFO found it necessary to either delete posts, close topics, or come down harshly on members whenever there was a threat to the PFO's image. The fact that *********** and ******* existed in the forums is a sad tribute to the fact that policy was dictated by ego, and not an interest in furthering the community. (And the BS about "not supporting porn sites" does not hold water with me--Edgenet wasn't displaying pornography, and several other sites that featured erotica were not "blacked" out in the posts). Choking off discussion, and censoring names is hardly IMHO community oriented. continued...