Well, there seems to be a two person conversation going on here. I have never seen someone respond so fast. WOW! I am sorry to inturrupt you converstion, but I would like to say thanx a lot you tow for the interesting links. When I have more time I will look farther into them. And Delrino, you will absolutly love photoshop. I have never seen such a great and helpful program!! It is a lot of fun to play around with, and it can give an image a totally different feel to it. And JnMoore, if you don't mind it would be great if you can send me a before and after look at the filter. Thanx a lot!! -Adam afanton@mindspring.com