You call that crappy?! Jeez, that's excellent! I'd hate to see what you can do when you try. ;) I do have the tex applied only to the inner eyball, and the outer is just 90% transparent, with no tex map. The lighting just isn't right, or maybe the refraction is wrong. These past couple were rendered in Max, and I'm still pretty new to Max' somewhat complicated material editor. I'll render the final in something I'm more familiar with, like Vue, which does a far better job anyway. I can't work on modeling much longer tonight, but I think by tomorrow I'll have something better done. Thanks again for all this, Travis, this is great of you to do this for us. :)