BlackSteel, this place is open to all views, doesn't matter if you have been a member from the 'Good ole days' or if today was your first time here. I feel everyone has a right to speak what is on their mind, right or wrong, good or bad, or even if it is to tell me that I am a rotten a-hole. Everyone has their own opinion, I wont censor you, I wont delete you, I may not agree with what you may say, but part of what being adult means is: Listen with an open heart and mind and then make your own choice. Not get your dander up and start blasting away. All that I ask is that the message be placed in the proper forum for it...nothing more, nothing less. Oh...and welcome to Renderosity :o) Jack