Dan, I for one think that Steph was a marvelous idea!! You could have done something less expensive this is true, but I think in the long run in terms of customer satisfaction that you did the right thing :) I have not touched Vicky since I installed Steph, I'm sure I will, but right now I'm really entranced with her capabilities and her "real look". My only gripe is that now you have forced me to learn the templates for the big three :) I am going to try my best to port my favorite textures from Vicki over to Steph...sorry but it's a pocket book thing and I just have so many darn textures anyway, I can't justify to myself starting to spend money on a whole new texture wardrobe when there are other things that I would rather spend my money on that will be more useful to me as an artist. :) But I am VERY grateful and happy that you all did what you did. As far as the negative feedback goes, well, it's just going to happen, but I do not believe that it was the majority of the reaction. Thank you again!! Pendy