"For a long time after that I practiced keeping my mouth shut no matter what I thought." I have heaqrd this from so many people about PFO and I have seen how people are berated simply for voicing their opinion in an adult and rational manor only to be berated like they are bad children by the king of lip Grey. There is something fundamentally wrong with Forum owners telling there members to shut the hell up. It is a forum, which by definition is "a public meeting place for open discussion". That is why I stopped frequenting the PFO a long while ago I was sick of the dictatorship.