Stephanie rocks, Mike 2 rocks, Vicky Rocks, Mil Baby rocks, Daz rocks! BTW, speaking of mesh versatility I've successfully converted Vicky 2 into a Male character, and Mike 2 into a adolescent, using ONLY the preset morphs (I'll include a pic of the Millennium Kid, it isn't perfect, as I only spent limited time on it, but it goes to show the versatility of this M2 mesh). I love Stephanie, and I think Daz is on the RIGHT TRACK! More variety, more power to the artist. I think all of this controversy will, in the end, perhaps, play out well in the end, as it will increase exposure of the product, thus more sales. The free market will decide, and in my opinion, Daz3D is plugged in! There will be nothing but success for Daz3d, as far as I can see, the ONLY question would be the future of Poser (as Daz is primarily developing for Poser), which from what Kupa told us about the features, looks bright. I'm also GLAD to hear the words, "Vicky 3.0"!!! God bless all y'all, Ben Burton MessianicArt.com