Dan & the DAZ team; As an example (and since Ironbear mentioned heroic characters), here's my first real work with Stephanie...a work I couldn't have done as well on without her... Something I've always tried to live by: Never second-guess yourself. The game plan you followed with Stephanie was beautiful, and has cemented the DAZ name into the ranks of those few companies who value the EXISTING customer, as well as the FUTURE customer. There will always be the knee-jerk naysayer's with any effort like this...but I think the overwhelmingly positive reaction from those here who are considered 'regulars' speaks for itself. And if not, I'll add my voice to those praising and thanking you for a wonderful gift, which will see plenty of usage in my renderings... Thank you Dan, thank you DAZ...you did yourselves proud... David 'ChromeTiger' Hebbe