Thanks ever so much , the Eve and Azura look to be most promising , especially with the high rez head option of the later . From what Iv'e seen in another tutorial , the effect I mentioned wanting to achieve is called Mobius , but, the tutorial make the whole thing depandant on finishing in photoshop. Is it not possible to do a Mobius model so that ppl can download your glassy person with fleshy bodyparts. Now I come to think of it , can Chrome be added to poser figures in the program ? (I'm sure newbies ask the worst and most complicated questions eh ?!?)