DAZ won't release a topless (and I'm sure this is a female only limitation) character? When they offer nude males with everything hanging out?!? ::shake head at the narrow-minded discrimination... again:: rant We are talking art here. I suppose there are no museums in Utah showing the statues and paintings of other cultures without covering everything in sheets and fig-leaves? A whole state full of Ashcrofts frantically covering the private parts of classic Greek statuary and painting over innumerable cupids? They ought to be glad that I'm not God in the Judaic-Christian tradition (jealous, tempermental and proud).. I'd zap with a lightning bolt anybody who thought my creation was shameful and so ugly that it needed to be hidden away from innocent eyes. ::harumph!:: /rant OK, ya gotta do what you gotta do to sell in that market... but if they are worried about the product renderings catching a viewer unawares, why not just pose a feather fan in front of her breasts? Since these were priest-kings, a sistrum would be a good prop (you know that people are going to put her in temple scenes as soon as they get her)... also board games and cosmetics as mentioned above. They took great pleasure in life, and wanted more of it. Hmm... I just got a mental image of her burning her bra-thingy in that brazier while wearing an evil grin. Carolly