Do you feel victimized because now that you've bought your car you have to fill the tank with gas all the time? How about the stupid CD player that won't work unless you get some cds to play in it? Poser is a bit different in that you don't have to add anything else. But like anything, if you want more you'll probably have to pay more. So how much will it cost in the end? Just exactly as much as you allow it to cost. Or even more appropriate, would you feel victimized by a company because they sell a computer for $35 when most of their competition charges $800-$1,800 for something quite similar? That pretty well describes DAZ although they sell models, not computers. If they make anyone feel victimized it is probably their competition. - Jack