All of this has little to do with Stephanie. This has all to do with the simple fact that all of us are enamored with a wonderfully inadequate piece of software. We go to incredible extremes and expense only to find that when we try to approach realism, the software is inadequate. It does not matter how or why we want more realism. It just matters that we do. The common thread here is that we all want more detail and flexibility. We spend our time and money in increasing amounts trying to make up for the deficiencies in the product we use. The fact that the Poser community exists with it's many wonderful, commercial resources is evidence that we do not get what we want. The length of this very topic thread tells me that we all want the same thing:JUST LET ME DO IT! That means to what ever degree. A small cleft on Stephanie, or a gaping genital oriface with hugely swollen lips. Doesn't matter which. We either tell the "Lab" or shut up. There's enough of us we can have an impact. I hope their staff members are reading. Maybe there's room for a more complete piece of software instead of a Poser 5. Let's face it: We can't all get in the same phone booth 'cause we aint all makin' the same call! We all gotta call, 'cause we all gotta' communicate!