If it's really a rendering engine which is heavy hitting enough to crush radiosity, then it better truly CRANK without cranking down on our machines as well. I'm all for a better engine. There's a lot of stuff that comes out of Lightwave that I really really like. It would be very cool if C could start competing in that space. So far, Eovia hasn't taken steps backwards (that are too terrible) so I'm going to keep the faith a while. -Kix

-Kix