David - the whole "kick" in doing this stuff is knowing and seeing that it is used - be it for pics or new stuff, free or commercial. I'm as selfhishly greedy as anyone to see new stuff all the time, and I see no point in re-inventing the wheel every time you have to do a new clothing item. That's why all my freestuff items carry the copyright clause that all CR2's and OBJ's are totally copyright-free (except for resale as-is). If anyone can make something new based (in whole or in part) on my humble stuff, then it becomes their stuff and their copyright. And BTW : If you didn't catch the later legionary postings in the forum, the d/l should now be bug-free. Sorry about the mess.