hmm, if there is something new to be said, then yes, say it but how many messages here are saying exactly the same things, with the same responses? I'm sure I could come up with at least five moderately long threads that contain essentially the exact same content. In a case like that yes, bite your lip. Or if you feel people should know you feel the same...add to an existing thread "I feel the same" If you have something to say that hasn't been said before, by all means say it.... honestly, this is one issue, shouldn't it be one thread? Maybe you could see three or four issues under this general topic...three or four threads. why two full pages of threads in that case? Imagine if we had this many threads on how to use phi builder...either a forum would be started for phi builder or people would just be replying to the new ones "your question has already been answered in this thread (insert URL here)" So don't censor...but then again, you aren't helping anything by repeating what has already been said and read by everyone (and this coming from the king of ranting, so feel free to call me a hypocrite) SewerRat