You know, after reading a few "special" e-mails from some of the members here after my post I almost lost it. Came close to a nice big tirade (gee, that'd be helpful right about now). I don't know anymore, if it has come down to this kind of nasty attacks in e-mail for a message that (I felt) doesn't attack anyone but tries to help figure out a way that we can all just go back to some kind of peaceful co-existence(my Star Trek gene is taking over) then maybe I was wrong. Maybe it already is too late to do anything. If those e-mails are any indication, then for many this has nothing to do with the good of the Poser community as many people like to say. It's about conflict between individuals who feel they have been wronged and want to see some kind of justice. I can understand that. If you punch me in the face, I'm gonna want to do the same to you. No matter what your take, there is no way that you can tell me that the loss of the Poser Forum would be of benefit to us all. There is just as much singular art and innovative techniques being created there as there are here. And if you think that these resources will just spring up again, why don't you take a long look at the list of Poser related websites that have bit the dust since 1998 (when I first joined the PFO). Forums this alive and active are not the norm.