Kate-- Never say "never". I have a suspicion that the PFO may reinvent itself with the remaining members. Or another split may find itself in the works. I'm starting to reconsider Willow's role in all this. I'm thinking she's some cosmic force that wreaks chaos in the Poser community--and from that chaos springs forth new forums. Considering the havok she and Grey have created at the PFO, I wouldn't be surprised if a new forum sprung out of this mess. It almost makes sense (in a sick Yuppie New Age way): Willow as Cosmic Chaos Mother. The stone from which all great stone soup is made.