Anton, Very cool - the fabric 'bends' are so much closer to reality than most pose 'folds' shudder Petals? aaaaah - instead of two chains of cascading parts, there are several chains coming from the hip obj. That right? How horrible is handposing these things? do we have multiple skirt obj parts to move around? It can't possibly be IKing sideways, can it? I'm thinking something kinda Easypose like, with the objparts influencing eachother? And not that I animate - but how do they behave with that? I'd guess you'd need to make the mopvement sequence twice, once for the skirt and once for the figure? As for length - any possiblity of setting material zones like in Vick's dresses? so rings around the hem can be made transparant? Lyrra