lmckenzie, The forun at Thraldom is still operational. Its just that making a set the way I do takes months ... don't make many but have fun. The set will be released again in a few weeks on a Spanish site. I will announce it. The Otaku World link is the best for newbies to follow. You can find tuts and links to get you started. Otaku World is the center of the kiss world for North America and Europe. The Japanese seem to be quite stand-off-ish in the last several years. Kiss is a fun medium that can be just about anything you want it to be. Some, most notable 'The Owl', produce sets that are very complex to the point of being an interactive game with a large number of results... I have been using Poser to produce Kiss sets for over three years. There are starting to be a few more Poser / Kiss contributors but I would like to see more. The Mechanix