This is about tring to find a fire-and-forget solution to this problem. Orphea was hoping to avoid it by getting an immune figure, and he discovered a hole in DAZ's attempt to fix it. One that the rest of us missed. It is not a matter of not knowing about the Null Loader. If the Null Loader is all the solution that you need, then you have your fix. Some of us are going to continue hacking at this thing to see if there are other ways to get there. It is also a way of discovering other possibilities in Poser. I think Bloodsong's discovery may be a version of the Null Loader. The trick is to test it on three or four figures at once and see if two controls three, three controls four, ... If one prop at the beginning blocks it all, then it is something new. If it only protects two from one, then it is the Null, and a null that has weight and is not really null.