Anton, If you move this thread to private mail or to another forum, would you please let us (me) know. While I'm very new to this conforming clothing stuff I am very interested in your technique and would like to continue to follow along, if it's alright with you?! I have to wonder if a variant of this technique couldn't be used for other things like bat wings and conforming cloaks. It might also allow more realistic movement shawls, cowls etc. Thanks. mike