Wolf, Thanks for revisiting this topic. The mailing list has been in existence for a looong time, I used to subscribe back in Poser 3 days. There are quite a few skilled Poser animators on the list, lurking these days. You're right about the perceptions of Poser in that community. It's generally underappreciated, and yes, that is why we produced Pro Pack, to provide useful tools and content to a community of that caliber. What would really make us happy, is for a fully animated Poser project to find some commercial success and then be reported on to the CG Char community and the professional animation community at large. I hope for all our mutual benefit that such projects see the light of day and find the success they deserve. And Wolf, thanks for showing your work to this group. They can be harsh judges. Cheers, Steve Cooper