I know just what Wolf means about Poser discrimination. But Poser is my secret weopon. I doubt Poser could ever become an animators tool of choice. It is 99% used for stop motion snapshots. There are too many mature, powerhouse 3d apps to compete against. Poser could become a powerhouse utility/resource app tho . If Poser could export figures in a more useable, animatable (IK/FK)condition, its sales would skyrocket. The user friendly library structure, along with the huge free/cheap lbraries of everything an animator needs, except motion, & maybe hair (arguable), would make it an awesome toolchest of props, Poses, Figures, Faces, Clothes, Maps etc. It has a smoking fast display quality renderer (sans transparency)also. My partner & I have rigged Poser figures in Max. We had to change the mesh in a few areas (hips/armpits) tho. Once this can be done to an unmodified mesh, then a script could automate the rigging process, opening the door to Poser figures exporting to Max with full IK/FK function. Poser is 100X easier & more powerful for figure making/tweaking s/w than anything out there.