Freak, so it's up to you to be Jack's mouthpiece and for me to be Grey's? No--thats not it at all. Individuals have to stand up against what they feel is wrong, and an organization should show good faith to its members. This is not about "Renderosity vs the PFO", its about the "PFO vs. its own members". It's been obvious for a while that the PFO is trying to go in a direction dictated by a handful of people. The members are being trampled in the process--many members are being trampled for doing what you're trying to do, bring peace into the community. It appears to me (and this is my opinion) that Willow and Grey don't want peace, they want their way. They want to, once again, direct the flow of communication at the hub of the Poser community. I for one, do not feel the need to buckle under to relive someone else's "glory days."