Warrior, in reference to Ian and Willow's inability to defend themselves, the have every opportunity to, just as YOU have the the ability to defend them. Despite the fact that it was a mass email from Mr.Grey that BEGAN this current series of threads, they choose not to, instead dropping out of sight. You really don't seem to be gaining much ground here in your crusade to end the war, because there's too much bad blood for some folks to forget. You defend the admins of the PFO, and you believe them to be persons of good character. Perhaps if this is so, you can explain things to Ian and Willow as eloquently as you have to us here, and they, being reasonable people, will choose to do the more mature thing and end the public hostilities themselves. It is as much within THEIR power as it is the people here. If Willow would apologize publically and profusely (and with the same amount of energy she used to alienate them in the first place) to every person who believes they were vilified by her, and if she would promise to treat her members with the respect that they deserve, perhaps some of them might consider giving her a second chance.