Mike, Thanks for your input. You pretty much confirmed my suspicions. One reason that I like Moray is that it is inegrated with POVRAY. POVRAY is an underrated renderer in my opinion. A couple more follow-ups: I assume from looking at your gallery that Vue 4 is your choice of renderers? (Nice pics! I put a comment on one of them) I assume from your mention of NURBS that you are partial to Rhino? If you are looking for Photorealistic interior scenes, Lightscape is by far the best renderer out there. It is customized for interior and architectural renderings, but the renders are mind-boggling. It is over $700 for the commmercial version, but I saw a student version for around $140