I forgot about the conical thing, but that's a default scene setting. Now I seem to be getting some results however the veiw is often two tone depending on the camera angle. Just blue for thbe sky and grey for the ground. Sheesh this is like learning to walk for the first time! What's worse is that I can't get any response from my water plane settings. Just grey muck with light grey splochy acid puddles! I need to know why the sky goes away when I reposition the camera and why even though it's above ground the water doesn't ripple. Thanks again

Must've slipped my mind...but it's the thought that counts...

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