Eric, I believe the problem with that ship by Espona is the number of objects, and not the polygons. I can't remember though because I don't have it anymore, but it seems to me that it has over 400 parts or something like that. In Vue, you can have a SINGLE object with 1,000,000 polys and have a perfectly acceptable refresh rate. Now, if those 1,000,000 were divided up into a model with several hundred indivuidual "parts" (separate objects, as far as Vue is concerned), Vue will slow down. For me, at 600mhz, I start noticing it at around 300 objects, and the poly count doesn't seem to matter at all.