Geralday: Yup, 100% Anim8or, with loads of thanks to you!! Well, I thought I was real carefull in removing all my test BUM refrences but as someone (kindly I might add..) pointed out that they snuck back in and were pointing to my Anim8or directory (darn little gremlins!) (Sorry about the all the nudity above, I just got Vicky2 and RDNA's Elsa for Stephanie and got a little carried away. Hey! that's Eve4 up there too!!) Well, the BUMs are edited out agin and I also noticed the props lost thier parenting peramiters so that's all fixed too. I left the BUMs out all together as they were adding an additional 2+ Megs to the download and I figured most folk wouldn't use them in "back-ground" props and could make their own easily for any close-ups. (gee I got back over 2+ GIG one day after deleting them all from my own HD! -> BUMs, can't live with them, can't live without them...) Thanks for the compliments and Sorry to those who had to wrestle with the BUM bummer! P.S. Don't forget the Corner Posts of the main "Nobel's Stand" can be removed so multiple sections can be lined up seamlessly for one l-o-n-g grand stand!