Nance, do you mean this one by penguinisto?http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?Form.ShowMessage=540583 A complex way to make them? If so, it looks like something I would have to study and work up to, but thanks! Pause. Actually, though, in a quick reread its seems that Penguinisto suggests that one make a body part and then parent it to the body like an overlayed patch of skin. Maybe I should look again tomorrow.