Dear Martin, I tested on MANY different computers. I would never release anything that wouldnt work, just like you and your own wonderful programs. Please dear Martin, try out my programs. If they dont work for you, give them back, they wont cost you a penny. Tryout my QuickRotator for Mac first, its gratis http://www.pcbos.nl/Poser_Website/Poser_Web.html Believe me, PPP works update Poser to 4.0.3, then update to Pro Pack SP3. THEN run my programs- preferably straight from the Poser menu, giving mainbuttons a miss the first time- after having read "Remarks.html", which you can also find in the Mac manual at the above place, and which you also get, including a full manual, with my programs at DAZ. Brother mine, we seldom have disagreed in the past, so this is fun... Give it a serious try, OK? By the way: the Environment Creators will also be released in a German Version- and Poser German is a TRUE nightmare, you wouldnt believe how badly some of the tcls are written there; which simply means I will have to write a few of my own, what? Yours, Paul P.S. Of COURSE I remember our IE correspondence... I still prefer to work with Netscape under Windows, by the way- I HATE viruses and sniffers... Cheerio :-)