Mark thank you for the reply. I don't have Ray Dream but I do have 3d Studio Max. So I export the entire figure into Max and then build the props around that? Then how do you create the texture maps to match the figure? I have Photoshop 5 but not Painter. I know I'm asking alot (and I'll probably have to ask some more) but so far yours is some of the best work (seriously) I've seen here and I realize that since you're busy on this not to expect too much help. But thanks a whole lot really. Most of us "newbies" learn more from accomplished designers like you than from the manuals. I bet this thread is gonna go on for a long time! Thanks again.