"Ha! That is one way to look at it, another is sometimes real world results don't always meet are expectations!" A possability :) The thing is, we knwo that a single test case (poser) only tells us one thing - how fast poser runs on any system. In and of itself that is useful, but it is clearly tied to much more than simply CPU speed. This machine benchmarks right where it is supposed to for 3DS Max, photoshop and Premier. So P4 aware software seems to be doing exactly what it is suppose to. ::shrugs:: I'll be damned if I understand it :) Liek I said, seeing that Max can runt he same scene in < 12 seconds tells me the problem is poser... not the box itself :)