17? As in 17 kbp/s ? If your cable modem is going that slow you need to tell your provider, that would be ridiculous. If people in this area dip below 1000kbp/s we are ticked. We were getting 2500 - 3000 kbp/s before the @HOME debacle. Now it averages about 1200 - 1500. I miss the extreme speed, but it's still wonderful, and quite a bargain. -T