My figures from Diamond Creek outside Melbourne Australia, just outside Cable and Broadband coverage using a V90 dial-up modem. 37,333bps...costs US $10 per month...unlimited download but 4 hour bumpoffs. Telephone charges are a rip off with line rental and service fees plus US 15cents per phone call and 10% goods and services tax for dessert. Broadband or cable plus a second telephone line all up would be just under US 50 bucks if I could move my PC 2 miles closer to the "Big Smoke" does this rate a few tears? Tommy.