They are really the same, even the name is a dumb as the name I originally gave mine, "EMC Fixer" The point of this is to benefit people who are new to Poser and are looking for a quick fix to the problem. Hopefull they will search for "Cross Talk" and find it right off. Who is going to search for "EMC Fixer" or "Null Loader"? A little background... For those give a darn ;-) I came up with the idea about using a blocking figure when I was developing the first EMC figures, The DreamSpinner collection. Rob adapted the "EMC Fixer" to work with MM characters. I added the extra stuff for MM figures once I realized they had extra parts. Rob's Cross Talk Info Nerd 3D Cross Talk Info A really cool new trick involves grafting a Fixer and any EMC figure together. It will automatically load a fixer before each figure. This saves a bunch of clicking around and keeps you from accidentally blowing a scene by loading things in the wrong order. Instructions on how to do this are on my EMC tut page. The Fog Tool comes with a version that sports an integrated "Shield".