"I posted it where I wanted to because, honestly, I prefer to offer something other than the US vs THEM bullshit that has been plaguing both forums." It's my ball, we'll play by my rules? For the record, neither of my posts were to "defend" Jack. They were both basically warnings. (Although one can make the point that warning someone of a danger is "defending" them). First, about the posibility of hacked accounts (very real, by the way, have a look at the nasty "hackers" thread in the "complaint" forum). Second warning, about the need for an administrator to be above board, to make sure the rules are fair, and to lead by example, following those rules. The quality of a leader is that they never say "do as I say, not as I do". I don't particularly care what kind of jokes Jack makes over in the "Tavern". But the rule (Jack's rule) is that they don't belong in the "Forum News and Team Contacts". If anyone else had done that, the thread would have been moved. Instead, we get "I posted it where I wanted to". I know, it's Jack's house, and he can post it wherever he wants it. I don't need my nose rubbed in it. There is a heck of a difference between trying to humerously diffuse a thread that is getting too hot, and what Jack has done. Ciao! Joe