Being one who works for a LARGE company my reaction upon first seeing the e-mail was "clueless in Marketing". You know, the people who make unrealistic claims ("Of course we make a hovercraft!") but then couldn't tell you what version of software is shipping. We actually had one of 'em post Alpha software on our web site as "release" without telling anyone because they had guaranteed a big buyer that they would see new software by a given date. I'l prolly take a look at the links in the message over the weekend. Let'cha know if there is anything earth shattering. jje