No Worries, I didn't take it as a slight, I just didn't know if he knew. Don't forget Poser will accept .3ds models as well and there are several that work nicely out of the box. There's a great free .3ds Bugatti at: http://berg.heim.at/kaprun/430112/ Doesn't take much to get it working well. May have to assign a few colors to Materials and set some Transparencies but it looks great after very little work. There is a great free Jeep at: http://www.xdyne.com/cgi-bin/2.0/sportcar.cgi Looks great after assigning transparencies to the glass and reflection maps to the chrome. If you willing to do a little more work there are lots of sites that carry free cars in .3ds, .max, .dxf, etc. formats. Quality generally ranges from really bad to pretty darn good. The body of the 57' Chevy started life as a free .3ds file from 3DCafe.com. It took alot of work to get that one working but there are many others that take alot less work to get pretty decent results.