Sharkey, I just tried your links myself and all but these were currently dead: http://www.maxnet.ru/aks/models_R.html http://www.amalthea3d.com/ http://www.3dcafe.com the one for 3DXtra you have is bad as well, just use: http://berg.heim.at/kaprun/430112/ as listed for the Bugatti above. There are several other nice cars too. Looking through my bookmarks (all tested) are: http://www.3dtotal.com/ffa/meshes/meshvehicles.htm http://www.3droom.net/object3d.html http://www.turbosquid.com/ (mostly pay, but some free) http://www.ultim8-3d.com/html/freemodels.html and http://www.deespona.com/index.html (Mostly pay but there is a Nice free Mercedes S600 and a Panzer Tank.)