Now I won't get my 5 bucks, and I have a hard drive with some old stuff I don't care about. Hey JAG, I sent you the email, what did you think of it even though you're pulling your offer? I am still kinda interested in what you do and would like to know more, and you can e-mail me here (davids@esmcivil.com)if you wish to keep it private. Davo