Bloodsong, Saving a figure with shields(nulls, what ever you call it) does work, but only if the figures were originally loaded in the right order. Poser will tead the PZ3 in the same order the figures were created. (At least it seems that way) You have to load in this order... Shield Figure Shield Figure My integrated shield insures that the figures are loaded in that order. I'd like to see this smaller null thingie you are using. I tried something like that when I first dreamed this up and I couldn't make it work. I made a figure that only had a body and no other parts. It would load, but it didn't block cross talk. FishNose, (I'll probally catch he!! for this, but here goes...) Actually DAZ doesn't do much innovationg. The Millenium figure's "innnovations" are mostly ripped off. The body divisions are based on the Evolution figures and all those pbm's are for the EMC/ERC research. You can bet V3 will have body handles and a shield, all courtesy of the 'osity-3DC-PFO think tank. (OK, falme away, I've got my Nomex gloves and peril sensative sunglasses on))