heyas; that thing on the left is (supposedly) brain coral. :) kate: right; there are three plants i used, the new red coral (you can d/l it), the tropical broad leafed thingy, and the tall skinny seaweed is that... whateveryacallit plant that looks like... well, like that. ;) i am not a botanist!! those cool anemones are from mitch. i was gonna post a link to his site, but forgot. here it is, but be warned, since he moved, i have NEVER gotten this link to work :/ http://w2.altenglan.de/mitch/ can't find it under www..... either. :/ i'll ask debbie. hey, i even found the scalar model in the sample pics, but you can still apply that fin transparency to it. ;)