Okay.... lets be Brutal & Honest... heres My opinion (since My render kinda started this) : 1st..... I don't like a pic, I don't post , rate or say squat, as for neo's talent, I had him beat with My 1st render,let alone now, his opinion means jack s**t to Me, I know its not the best render..... I even said that in My discription. Funny thing is.... I have done damn near 100... thats right one-hundred renders since My last posting in January, just playing around & expeirmenting, I check the comments box for ppl like Blackhearted, Irish, & Marque..... not ppl like neo. 2nd..... End of the day.... I know (not from ego either), that I am better than a decent percentage of ppl who have been using Poser for years, I started less than a year ago...... late september 2001 to be exact....I started out....to learn... & ppl like neo CANNOT break My Spirit or Drive, because, at the end of the day, I know all My works are original..... can he say that ??? 3rd.... As Blackhearted said... I am still learning, & I know this, its kinda like learning to ride a bike, keep trying.... till You give up, or get it right.... & I don't give up.... so, guess I'll get it right eventually. thats all I have to say, apoligies if I offended Anyone... & thanks for the real comments Everyone, I usually just ignore ppl like neo..... guess its his personal insecurities, not sure.. don't care, his problem (& his therapists), not Mine. thanks for reading, Thomas